@Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. Let him fix it ONCE. Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. Do you have high ceilings ? A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. Never to be heard from again. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Right? These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. It was not supportive or helpful. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. The coating should not come up. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. I also have some design software that may help with your need. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) Im very happy with them and they are exactly the look I wanted. Make your home a homage to Scandinavian style or simply add a few nicely Nordic touches with this checklist of key features, Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Engineered wood flooring offers classic looks and durability. Its for a new build. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). The instructions on the bottle is straight forward. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. The light white washing will give you the raw look. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Bona Naturale will also do this. Absolutely love the matte finish. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. I have about 735 sf. Also what do you mean by toned oak? Source: elsesun.com. I could only post one photo at a time. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). Thanks! A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. One more thing, the rooms Ive put this flooring in are the master bedroom, guest bedroom and an office, so no heavily trafficked areas. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Thank you! We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Don't disagree with you at all. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. I hope some of this information is helpful. Apply the second coat. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. We are building next year and making decisions now. Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. I was asked two separate questions. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. I settled on something I didnt love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. It is less than $0.85/sf. Rift sawn white oak like we are referencing is not common at all in our location. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. Thanks for leaving this up. I do love the natural color. These posts priceless. @Moran Blueshtein. Would love to hear from anyone who has sampled these Sealers and what they thought. . Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. I have found some great inspirational pictures. Your floors are beautiful. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. How are things holding up a ~year later? Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I read ClassicSeal is a cheaper sealer in the Bona lineup? I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. They are not even good choices for low care floors. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services. Finished with three matte protective coats. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Get ready for a LONG story! ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. I screwed that up a few times. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Not always as expected. Cant decide! True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. The other two will give you more color. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. AhemRight??? G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. If, youre looking for a small amount. When was the last coat applied? Not a one. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. Floors look VERY good! Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. A red oak floor does not need sealant. Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: No one does work for free. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. White oak stain is also famous. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. Do you think there is any major issue with this? By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. and I wish we had another layer of protection. Heres a close up. We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. Nice, eh?! Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. Forget prefinished. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. Please leave this post up. Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. It sounds like this does a really good job at what we are both after. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Dry finish. Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. professional finishes are sold in gallons only. And like all things "time is money". The reason: they turn orange. Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. Let's see how long this finish last. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! Thank you for your feedback. 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Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. Their attention to detail. You can use Poloplaz Pearl sealer with Endure or Pallmann's Pall-x white seal and Pall-x Pure. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. Hi everyone! wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). See the before and afters and why we chose this color. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? I asked him to bring natural finish tomorrow, Im torn between natural and classic. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. Good luck! Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". You have NOT hired installer yet! It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. Really not read much about IntenSeal? If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. And you want to have 3 coats total. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? They held up to move in with no major scratches. If so what brand and color was used? (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. "1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. I hope these help someone! If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. Would love to see finished product! The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). thanks, All! It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). Very patient. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). If, Bona Mega is your budget. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. For a house your size and a $50k budget. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. Matte looks a bit dull. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. @j, @ Renee, It is satin. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). I like natural white oak with your concept. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. Mega turns yellow. The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. It will make the white oak whiter. Apply and wipe off excess. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. Good luck on your project!! WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter.
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